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1 The Standard! on Sat May 22, 2010 4:00 pm

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Although we had a gaflon (a hanging banner), it was time that we had a free flying, awesome group flag!

Having acquired a suitable flag pole and rubbed a good quantity of beeswax into it, it was now time to start work on the flag itself.

The flag would need to display our group heraldry which is :



...so it was time to start with the basics. As the flag would show the same image on both sides, it would require eight large squares, four white and four yellow.





...and (as you can see) it is now time to sew on many, many black squares...


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2 Re: The Standard! on Sat May 22, 2010 8:01 pm

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Very interesting. As someone who can barely thread a needle I above of your skills!

Also, what's the Latin motto translate into?

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3 Re: The Standard! on Sun May 23, 2010 2:03 am

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wagi wrote:Very interesting. As someone who can barely thread a needle I above of your skills!

I assure you that I am far from a sewing expert!


wagi wrote:Also, what's the Latin motto translate into?

"From Our LORD And MASTER, SIR FROG, Rat, Ghost and Cat come wonderous things".

If you hadn't guessed, these are the nicknames of myself, Ratty Phill, "Slimer" Matthouse and young Kate. Matthouse earned his nickname by performing a most excellent Slimer from Ghostbusters impersonation! I was forced to make a picture to mark the occasion.


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4 Re: The Standard! on Sun May 23, 2010 3:49 am

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your good at making clothes and flags! i didn't know the ghosts in ghost busters liked lord of the rings...

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5 Re: The Standard! on Sun May 23, 2010 12:34 pm

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Get.Creative wrote:I didn't know the ghosts in ghost busters liked lord of the rings...

Our one does - he also likes burgers!


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6 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 4:38 am

That fabric could do with being ironed! I seem to recall you spending ages preparing the black squares so it's interesting to see the process. I'm looking forward to seeing how you handled the text, I can imagine that being quite tricky.

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7 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 8:05 am

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The fabric is currently drying after receiving a good wash and scrub to remove construction pencil lines and to generally clean things up a bit. It also flattens the fibres, giving a much smoother fabric that is more likely to catch in the wind. When it is dry, it will be ironed - and the ox heads sewn on.

As to the text: well, flags that were used as battle standards rarely if ever had any writing on them before the Renaissance, and this was pretty much the way things went until around 1700. Any you see from before this would most likely have been hung up in the dining hall and never would hear(s) the sound of clashing blade. So, with that in mind, I am not going to have text on the flag, but never fear: it will be included elsewhere!

An update is due later today!


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8 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 10:25 am

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Warning: Awful pun imminent.

This seems to be of a very high standard, forg!

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9 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 1:27 pm

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Jeremy wrote:Warning: Awful pun imminent.

This seems to be of a very high standard, forg!

This is where that phrase comes from! A high standard was a flag being held aloft by brave warriors. The alternative was a lowered standard, as dragged along by weary, defeated troops. So, to be held to a high standard literally means you are being compared to unbeaten, brave soldiery!


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10 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 4:49 pm

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Here are the two constructed sides just prior to being washed to improve the fabric and remove the construction lines. Things are now starting to look a bit more like the Fellowship's heraldry:




While these were drying in the (shockingly hot) midday sun, I set about making the ox head symbols (picture may be deliberately blurry to increase the excitement):




I know took hold of my trusty small shield template. I created this so that I could make small, wooden heraldry shields and keep them all consistent for size and shape. I made and painted one for the top of the standard pole and another three for use on the archery net frame. These need to be touched up slightly, but I think you get the idea:




Since I was unable to use the iron today (to remove wrinkles from the flag material) I cannot work further on this project until tomorrow.


Things still to be done:

Make and attach black "frame" to flag edges.
Make and attach black streamer to flag.
Put the wooden parts together, then fly flag.
Prepare for inevitable wedding to Evening Starfish.


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11 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 5:03 pm

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No doubt she shall swoon once she catches sight of your raised standard....

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12 Re: The Standard! on Mon May 24, 2010 5:33 pm

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wagi wrote:No doubt she shall swoon once she catches sight of your raised standard....

How can she not?!?


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13 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:07 pm

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So here's the flag! A black border has been added to all sides so that the colours stand out more. A streamer has been added to one corner to catch the wind and make it easier to see the image.


Still to be done:

A small amount of sewing to make it fit more tightly to the pole.
Attach wooden heraldry to top of pole.
Make arrangements for inevitable marriage to Evening Starfish.


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14 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:20 pm

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lovely as ever! Your really good at making things!

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15 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:25 pm

That looks great all together, a really professional-looking job!

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16 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:02 pm

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Most impressive...even the cow's head looks perfect!

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17 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:03 pm

wagi wrote:Most impressive...even the cow's head looks perfect!

Our LORD And MASTER, SIR FROG's head is far from perfect! Tongue Out

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18 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:18 pm

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The RED cow's head...

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19 Re: The Standard! on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:48 pm

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Thanks all. Hears will be receiving a hard stare over his latest comments!


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20 Re: The Standard! on Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:43 pm

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I was hoping to get a good shot of the flag unfurled, but there was a distinct lack of zephyrs so I had to lay it out on the grass instead:



So here you go. As you can see, it is a two sided flag (as it should be, and the standard's symbol echoes the image of the flag. At some point in the future I may add a small brass fleurs de lys to the very top, but we'll see. Anyway: one finished standard under which we will rally!


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21 Re: The Standard! on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:11 pm

What a lovely green lawn you have, I believe the lawn mower has visited recently as well!

On a more relevant note, I like the miniature version at the top of the pole. Everything looks great all together. A very professional-looking job, which I mentioned before. Thumbs Up

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22 Re: The Standard! on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:22 pm

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I like it, but it looks too new. It needs to see some battle... or clank across it in the mud a few times.

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23 Re: The Standard! on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:26 pm

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Don't worry - it will get battered...


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24 Re: The Standard! on Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:26 pm

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I scrolled down and promptly gave a snappy salute! Great job Oh Wise One!

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25 Re: The Standard! on Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:37 pm

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I am awaiting a suitably windy day so that I can get the photo I really want! Alternatively, I will need to eat many, many beans!


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26 Re: The Standard! on Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:24 pm

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Let us bow our heads in prayer for anything from a brisk breeze to gale force winds...at this point we can't afford to be picky.

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